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1. 

   MurrayDW
   Member

   First, thank you for writing this utility. It fills a vital security space for computer road warriors.
   Out of curiosity, if I enter a password using your virtual keyboard, then copy to the clipboard using CTRL-C, then paste to my password entry box with CTRL-V, is that less secure than using a mouse drag-drop? In other words, can a malicious keylogger know what text I'm cutting and pasting via the clipboard?

   Posted 1 year ago #
2. 

   neo
   Moderator

   Hi @MurrayDW,

   Cutting and pasting (using Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V) is actually very risky. Some keyloggers also capture the contents of the clipboard (quite a trivial thing to do). I'd strongly recommend you use the drag-drop method, as in all of my research (and I've done a heap), I cannot find any way for a keylogger to be programmed to capture information from a drag-drop event.

   I was thinking of disabling the cut-paste from future versions of Neo's SafeKeys. What do you think?

   Neo.

   Posted 1 year ago #
3. 

   Jonah
   Member

   I downloaded the neo safekey utility. However, after I closed my computer and then re-opened it I cannot find any icon that would activate the utility. Where is it hiding?
   Thanks, Jonah

   Posted 1 year ago #
4. 

   neo
   Moderator

   Hi Jonah,

   As it's designed for portable use, Neo's SafeKeys doesn't 'install' itself.

   So you won't find it in the Start -> Programs menu. It will be where you saved it after you downloaded it.

   Try downloading it again to the Desktop, so you can use it from there whenever you need it.

   Let me know how you go.

   Neo.

   Posted 1 year ago #
5. 

   Jonah
   Member

   Thanks for your reply.
   You wrote: It will be where you saved it after you downloaded it.
   Try downloading it again to the Desktop, so you can use it from there whenever you need it.

   Your icon is on my desktop. When I run it, the application appears immediately on my desk top.

   1. How do I save it? I did not get the choice where to save it to.
   2. How do I create an icon in my tray that would appear each time I start my computer?

   Thanks, Jonah

   Posted 1 year ago #
6. 

   neo
   Moderator

   Hi Jonah,

   I've taken your issue on board, and have now created a new 'version' of Neo's SafeKeys for you, and users like yourself.

   If you go to the Download page (http://www.aplin.com.au/?page_id=338), you'll see that you can now download a 'Neo's SafeKeys 2008 Install'. This is a setup program that will set up Neo's SafeKeys on your computer and will create menu icons in the Start -> Programs menu. I believe that this is what you're after?

   (The 'Neo's SafeKeys 2008 Portable' is the same version of Neo's SafeKeys - but just the .exe program.)

   Let me know how you go with the Install edition.

   Cheers,

   Neo.

   Posted 1 year ago #
7. 

   Jonah
   Member

   Dear Neo,
   The installed edition is great. I downloaded and opened the zip file and a new icon is now on my desktop. I can open the application with just one click, leave it on the desktop and when I need it to create a password, I can bring it up with alt/tab.

   I went to the features section and printed out the explanatory manual. Big problem for me. Although all the icons on the screen manual are clear, the printed version not so. All the icons are very, very small, miniscule is a better word. Can you make them much larger on the screen mode so that they will print out clearly. And while on the subject of clarity, the icons on the on-screen keys are too small to discern their function.

   And now, why can I not choose my own password. I want one that I can easily remember. When I reset my password I got one that is a combination of letters and numbers in lower and upper case form. I wrote it down, but it is too cumbersome to use. I have already chosen one that would be good fo me. It is in a foreign language (not English).

   Thanks, Jonah

   p.s. I still have the first one on my desktop. Can I use that on my flash drive, or do I have to download it from your website?

   Posted 1 year ago #
8. 

   neo
   Moderator

   Hi Jonah,

   Sorry about the late reply- I've been camping in the bush for the past 9 days. Out of phone coverage and without computer.

   Glad you like the install edition.

   I'll look at the manual aspect, and see if I can improve on this. Thanks for the tip.

   And now, why can I not choose my own password. I want one that I can easily remember. When I reset my password I got one that is a combination of letters and numbers in lower and upper case form. I wrote it down, but it is too cumbersome to use. I have already chosen one that would be good fo me. It is in a foreign language (not English).

   Aaah. After the line It is in a foreign language (not English) I think I understand what's going on here. There is a known issue with non-English keyboards and the random characters feature (see http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/internationalisation-bug). I'm beginning work on the next major version of Neo's SafeKeys, which should resolve these issues.

   Can I ask what language keyboard layout you're using?

   In the meantime, you may wish to simply avoid the 'Hide password in amongst random characters' feature on your non-English keyboard, until the next version is out.

   p.s. I still have the first one on my desktop. Can I use that on my flash drive, or do I have to download it from your website?

   Yes you can use it - no need to download it.

   Cheers,

   Neo.

   Posted 1 year ago #

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