http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ Discuss Neo's SafeKeys here en-US Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:16:59 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/search.php http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/create-a-new-keyboard#post-120 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:35:59 +0000 sphenoide 120@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi, </p> <p>Thank you for your answer.</p> <p>I dont’t exactely understand why you suggest to edit the *ini file although the keyboard layout is in a *ing file.<br /> But it doesn’t matter. I’ve made a new Swiss French keyboard *ing file (see attachment) that could be useful to other users.</p> <p>Having said that, I notice 2 bugs (on my PC) :<br /> - The 2 cursors (hover delay and transparency) don’t work (or very rarely !).<br /> - No bip with « beep on hover entry ».</p> <p>Furthermore,<br /> - What is the usefulness of a long (2500 ms) « hover delay » ?<br /> - Do the previous keyboard entry features (Scramble the on-screen keys etc.) still exist in the V3 ?<br /> - I noticed that when Neo’s safekeys is active, it deactivates my KeyScrambler software.</p> <p>See you soon </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/create-a-new-keyboard#post-119 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:45:26 +0000 neo 119@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thanks for the post. It looks as though there is a bug there that I need to resolve.</p> <p>In the meantime, I have created a page for keyboard layouts, and have placed one that was sent in by a user, Tomas. </p> <p><a href="http://www.aplin.com.au/neos-safekeys-v3/keyboard-layouts" rel="nofollow">http://www.aplin.com.au/neos-safekeys-v3/keyboard-layouts</a></p> <p>You should be able to customise Tomas' Czech/Slovak language file for your needs. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/create-a-new-keyboard#post-118 Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:51:06 +0000 sphenoide 118@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Neo’s SafeKeys 3.1 </p> <p>Hello, I woul’d like to create a new keyboard but haven't understood the indications :</p> <p>« Create a copy of the NSKconfig.ini file (with a new name), and then edit this file ».</p> <p>But when editing this file, it only appears :</p> <p>[Settings]</p> <p>Transparency=252</p> <p>You say : « Simply replace the characters you wish to change ». How to do that ??</p> <p>Thanks ! </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neo-safe-key-good-for-anti-hacker#post-117 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:05:09 +0000 susi 117@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi Neo</p> <p>I have tried injection mode from Neo Safe Key v3 to Yahoo Messenger. And it worked. Incredible.</p> <p>Thanks. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neo-safe-key-good-for-anti-hacker#post-116 Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:53:58 +0000 neo 116@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Though I haven't tried it myself, you may wish to see if the new Injection Mode in Neo's SafeKeys v3 allows for password transfers with Yahoo Messenger. I have a feeling that it may just work.</p> <p>Thanks so much for the post, Susi. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neo-safe-key-good-for-anti-hacker#post-115 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:05:23 +0000 susi 115@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi </p> <p>I am a new user Neo Safe Key. I used this program last months. This happens because of frequent theft of password in Facebook. </p> <p>The hackers use keylogger program, especially in the internet cafe where I often use. The aim is to steal chips poker in zynga texas holdem poker, the third biggest game in FB. </p> <p>I am delighted, with Neo Safe Key; I am free access without fear hacker can break my FB password.</p> <p>Only if there's a little advice, we recommend the Neo Safe Key applications can also be used in Yahoo Messenger (YM). I see drag and drop technique, can not be used in the YM. This is the point gap for hackers to break back in and steal the password.</p> <p>Lastly, I think the Safe Key Neo-makers will be given a place in heaven. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-114 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:40:29 +0000 neo 114@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>I'm currently redeveloping the site, that includes tutorials.</p> <p>The MD5 hash is a good idea - I'll look at implementing to give people piece of mind. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-113 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:37:14 +0000 anon_private 113@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>I have no reason to believe that Safekeys is available from any other site, but do you think it might be a good idea to post the md5 hash for your programme to ensure that if the programme is available elsewhere, and is downloaded, that it has not been adjusted in any way.</p> <p>Just a thought.</p> <p>Best wishes.</p> <p>A </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-112 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:13:31 +0000 anon_private 112@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thank you.</p> <p>Best wishes.</p> <p>A</p> <p>Ps. Is there a tutorial available. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-111 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:06:40 +0000 neo 111@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Correct. That is the safest method. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-110 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:56:37 +0000 anon_private 110@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thanks for replying.</p> <p>I'll delete v2.</p> <p>Can I assume that with v3 the safest method of use is to use SafeKeys in Hidden Mouse and Hover Mode with the password mask enabled?</p> <p>Thanks </p> <p>A </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-109 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:42:36 +0000 neo 109@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>I'd suggest you updating to version 3, as it is more secure and offers some new features over the previous version (eg the new 'Injection mode').</p> <p>Please know that Neo's SafeKeys has been designed to augment security a Windows OS only. I haven't done any development, testing or security analysis on Linux. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/saekeys-v3#post-108 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:10:52 +0000 anon_private 108@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>I have just noticed Safekeys v3.<br /> I have downloaded v3, but still have v2 on my machine. Is there any good reason to keep v2?</p> <p>I know that v2 is compatible with Linux via Wine.</p> <p>What is the situation regarding Linux running Firefox and v3?</p> <p>Best wishes</p> <p>Thanks</p> <p>A </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neos-safekeys-v3-beta-publicly-available#post-104 Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:09:57 +0000 neo 104@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Have been doing some investigations, but haven't found anything yet. Everything works great on my test/friend systems, and I can't find any reason for characters not coming up.</p> <p>...the only possible thing is that you may not have the correct font (but then the keys would also be blank). </p> <p>Sorry about the delay. If I come up with something, I'll let you know.. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neos-safekeys-v3-beta-publicly-available#post-103 Wed, 19 May 2010 02:08:55 +0000 dom77 103@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>I dont see the green flash at all....I see no characters in the input box in standard/hover mode. I thought it was my HIPS program causing the issue, but i used the older versions of safekeys &amp; they worked fine with the program turned on. My PC not slow dual core duo :) Im guessing you changed something since the v3 alpha for my PC not to see no characters in the input box.</p> <p>The only programs im running in the background are Comodo Firewall 4.0 which i let safekeys have access to. Also Geswall its a HIPS program. If its denying safekeys something i would've seen a message. Geswall i selected safekeys as a untrusted &amp; trusted to start it so im trying every combo. Even compatibility mode vista/XP to open.</p> <p>Dom </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neos-safekeys-v3-beta-publicly-available#post-102 Tue, 18 May 2010 23:26:31 +0000 neo 102@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi dom77,</p> <p>Strange bug...though I must say that I haven't been able to do any testing on Windows 7 (I'm still running XP).<br /> Will do some research though.<br /> One avenue of investigation is the protective layer; on slower computers it shows up as a quick green flash over the keyboard when SafeKeys starts. Do you see the green flash at all?<br /> Oh - and do any characters go to the input box at the bottom when you use either of the hover modes?</p> <p>As for the Colemak layout - this is possible. The keyboard layout is configurable. I'll be updating the beta in a day or so, and it improves the ease of keyboard layout management. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neos-safekeys-v3-beta-publicly-available#post-101 Tue, 18 May 2010 04:17:44 +0000 dom77 101@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi neo</p> <p>I got a bug with the latest beta. If i try to click something it doesn't appear in the input box below the onscreen keyboard. I mean no characters, nothing! blank... The v3 alpha version &amp; earlier versions worked fine. I tested it using it on a usb drive &amp; in windows. I got the same result. </p> <p>Hopefully i can use the Colemak layout if needed im about to swtich :)</p> <p>Im on Windows 7 32bit </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/neos-safekeys-v3-beta-publicly-available#post-100 Sun, 09 May 2010 22:01:44 +0000 neo 100@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Hi all,</p> <p>A quick post to advise you that Neo's SafeKeys v3 (beta) is now publicly available.</p> <p>You can download it from here:<br /> <a href="http://www.aplin.com.au/neos-safekeys-2008/future-beta-versions" rel="nofollow">http://www.aplin.com.au/neos-safekeys-2008/future-beta-versions</a></p> <p>This is the final beta before public release. Any suggestions for improvements would be greatly appreciated.</p> <p>Neo. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/safekeys-and-ubuntu-linux#post-99 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:17:17 +0000 neo 99@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>This would be <em>incredibly</em> hard to say with any degree of certainty, and would be more a matter of opinion than anything else. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/safekeys-and-ubuntu-linux#post-98 Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:42:14 +0000 anon_private 98@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thanks for responding.</p> <p>As matter of interest which of the following do you think would be safer for Internet banking.</p> <p>1. Vista + Internet Explorer + Safekeys</p> <p>2. UBUNTU + Firefox (set to private browsing) + nothing else</p> <p>Thanks</p> <p>ps. Banking site is https </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/safekeys-and-ubuntu-linux#post-97 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:21:02 +0000 neo 97@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>No, there isn't an equivalent of Neo's SafeKeys for Linux/Ubuntu. </p> <p>However, I've done a test, and Neo's SafeKeys does seem to work on Ubuntu using WINE.</p> <p>Many would argue that there isn't really much need for a SafeKeys equivalent on Linux.</p> <p>I'd generally agree with this for most users for two reasons:</p> <ul> <li>There are a LOT more viruses targeting Windows machines, over Linux/Unix or Mac</li> <li>Many there are more public machines that have Windows as the primary operating system.</li> </ul> <p></p> <p>Now, that said, malware protection like SafeKeys is a still not a bad idea on all platforms. Even though Linux/Unix is pretty rock solid, there are possibilities for infection - why else would continuous patching be required? </p> <p>...Malware writers are always looking for new ways to infect more machines. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/safekeys-and-ubuntu-linux#post-96 Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:20:36 +0000 anon_private 96@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Is there a Safekeys version for UBUNTU, or is not necessary for a Linux system?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/drag-drop-to-keepass#post-94 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:03:50 +0000 dynamicia 94@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>That's fantastic. Thanks for collaborating with KeePass author on this matter, and I'll be looking forward to the forthcoming release. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/drag-drop-to-keepass#post-93 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:23:06 +0000 neo 93@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Another update: The (forthcoming) new version, Neo's SafeKeys v3 does work with KeePass.</p> <p>Dominik (from KeePass) has tested and it works great.</p> <p>The new version of SafeKeys will be released within about a month's time. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-92 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:07:50 +0000 anon_private 92@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thank you.</p> <p>Best wishes.</p> <p>A </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-91 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:25:37 +0000 neo 91@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>At this stage, apart from what has already been discussed in this post, not really.</p> <p>If you're really interested in security, I suggest you visit <a href="http://www.techsupportalert.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.techsupportalert.com</a> (particularly their forum) and the <a href="http://www.wilderssecurity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wilderssecurity.com</a> forum. Some of these people are <em>really</em> knowledgeable on security matters. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-90 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:38:27 +0000 anon_private 90@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Thanks for the response.</p> <p>When banking using public pc's do you recommend any other packages that can be used with Safekeys that will enhance security? For example, a browser on the USB stick?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-89 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:51:15 +0000 neo 89@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <blockquote><p>Am I right in thinking that generating random characters into the password is not supported in mouse mode.</p></blockquote> <p>That's correct. There is no security benefit to be had by generating random characters while using mouse mode.</p> <blockquote><p>Another challenge is making it obvious to the user what key is being applied in Hidden Mode, and at the same time ensuring loggers are kept in ignorance. I have noticed that some public pc's, particulalry in libraries, do not support sound (Beep).</p></blockquote> <p>True - sound is the best option, but isn't always available. The libraries near me allow people to use headphones, which would assist. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-88 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:28:11 +0000 anon_private 88@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Am I right in thinking that generating random characters into the password is not supported in mouse mode. I could not get this to function. On stopping the random generation, everythig was removed? This might be a useful addition.</p> <p>Another challenge is making it obvious to the user what key is being applied in Hidden Mode, and at the same time ensuring loggers are kept in ignorance. I have noticed that some public pc's, particulalry in libraries, do not support sound (Beep).</p> <p>Best wishes.</p> <p>A </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/will-neos-safekeys-run-from-a-cd#post-87 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:53:11 +0000 neo 87@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Neo's SafeKeys <em>should</em> run just fine from a CD...though I have to admit I've never tried it.</p> <p>If it doesn't run directly from the CD, you could always copy it from the CD to the hard drive (eg the Desktop), and run it from there.</p> <p>Let us know how you go. Neo. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/will-neos-safekeys-run-from-a-cd#post-86 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:35:11 +0000 gtb 86@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>... or will it only run from a USB drive? I'd prefer the CD because otherwise you USB drive will be infested with malicious software after a while.</p> <p>Thanks,<br /> GTB </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-85 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:50:04 +0000 neo 85@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>I would recommend you use the mouse entry modes only. These are the safest. </p> <p>As an indication, I have removed the keyboard modes from the forthcoming version, as the mouse modes give much better protection.</p> <p>Regarding removing the password mark, I would not recommend it, as you open yourself to screen loggers and field scraping. </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-84 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:24:00 +0000 anon_private 84@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>would you advise randomising both the Safekeys keyboard and the real keyboard?</p> <p>Is there a security issue in revealing the password in Safekeys, that is removing the mask?</p> <p>Thanks </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-83 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:28:06 +0000 neo 83@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>From the features page: (<a href="http://www.aplin.com.au/?page_id=349" rel="nofollow">http://www.aplin.com.au/?page_id=349</a>)</p> <blockquote><p>When enabled, the Neo’s SafeKeys will get the comptuer to automatically type random characters into the password box. This way you can type your password on your keyboard, and it will be hidden (or obsfucated) within random characters. Most keyloggers will only capture a long string of random characters.</p> <p>When you start the ‘Hide password in amongst random characters’ feature, Neo’s SafeKeys will begin typing random characters. When you stop the ‘Hide password in amongst random characters’ feature, Neo’s SafeKeys will stop typing random characters, and will remove all randomly-typed characters from the password box.</p> <p>For example, if your password is “password123!”, depending on how fast you type (the slower you type, the more effective this is), most keyloggers will log something like:<br /> “re407f9rtpcfalsls98wmozrb45df8mer1u22xu3iv4wXJ!FC%wfy9dkp1″.</p> <p>You’ll note that the automatically-generated random characters are not typed at regular intervals; this timing randomisation better hides your actual key presses in amongst the random auto-generated key presses.</p> <p>Note that whilst this is effective against most keyloggers, kernel and hardware keyloggers will not be fooled. (Tech speak: hardware keyloggers and kernel-based keyloggers will not be affected, as they intercept the keys prior to Windows getting the keystrokes. This is effective against most hook-based keyloggers, as Neo’s SafeKeys 2008 sends the random keystrokes via Windows, and the hook-based keyloggers can’t discern the random from the real keystrokes.) </p></blockquote> <p>Hope this helps! </p> http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/topic/on-line-banking-using-public-pc#post-82 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:18:06 +0000 anon_private 82@http://www.aplin.com.au/forum/ <p>Just tried: 'Hiding password among random characters.'<br /> When this option is enabled the entry box seems to enter many characters and I can't see what I am doing. How is this function used? The programme then reverts to standard mode. </p>